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My view is that you still, in order to win from the Labour perspective, have to have a strong alliance with business as well as the unions. You have got to be very much in the centre ground on things like public sector reform.
我的观点是，为了从劳工的角度取胜，你仍然必须与企业和工会建立强大的联盟。在公共部门改革等问题上，你必须非常中立。