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The iconoclastic mode, that specific mode of language, there is an element of it that it is punk - that is confrontational. That's just a part of the language of jazz - at a certain point.
打破传统的模式，那种特定的语言模式，有一种元素是朋克式的，那就是对抗性的。在某种程度上，这只是爵士乐语言的一部分。