On my walks, that's when the good ideas come. The kind of hard, gritty work is when you're sitting at the computer and it's kind of intense and you're kind of in super control of it - the walks are when you let go. That's when the really big breakthroughs come in, and it's very strange.

在我散步的时候，好主意就来了。那种艰苦、艰苦的工作是当你坐在电脑前的时候，那种紧张，那种你对它有超级控制力的时候——散步就是你放松的时候。这就是真正的重大突破出现的时候，这很奇怪。