And, in fact, there is a connection, the people who designed this here program and who implement it are the same people who are overseeing and helping in the interrogations of detainees in places like Guantanamo.

事实上,这是有联系的,这个项目的设计者和执行者都是同样的人,他们监督和帮助关塔那摩等地的囚犯的审讯。

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You go down some street - no doubt it's there, and we have to do something about it, and our programmes are designed to do that - but if that's a picture of Newcastle, it's not the one I recognise and I bet none in the North East do either.

你沿着某条街走下去——毫无疑问它就在那里,我们必须对此做些什么,我们的节目就是为此而设计的——但如果那是一张纽卡斯尔的照片,那它就不是我所认识的那张,我打赌东北地区也没有。

Design is not really a way for me to express myself. Design is a product that we produce for a client.

设计并不是我表达自我的一种方式。设计是我们为客户生产的产品。