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You know, the media and politicians are always gonna be in a bit of tension with one another and probably most of the time that's healthy and indeed even creative. But it's where - it's really when news organisations are used as kind of instruments of politics that it gets tricky.

你知道，媒体和政客之间总是会有一些紧张关系，可能大多数时候这是健康的，甚至是创造性的。但当新闻机构被用作政治工具时，问题就变得棘手了。

— Tony Blair 托尼·布莱尔