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And then I met Jerry and he's such a creative fiction writer, and I don't know if there's ever been a team put together the way we are - where one person does the theological way out and suggestions, and the other person goes into the cave and does the fiction writing.
然后我遇到了杰里,他这样一个创造性的小说作家,我不知道如果有过团队放在一起的方式是——一个人的神学和建议,另一个人进入洞穴,小说写作。